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@54321nicolaskurtf
It was in responce to an earlier comment hence the @blacklionhearth before the message.
He said the dumbest religion is 4100 years old.
@bwrpwr
facts don’t mean blinding your opponent with big words so they don’t question your argument. facts are observable provable and testable events in real life.
Doing the maths on imaginary events: Not exactly proof, especially if the maths is for events physically impossible (fine tuning argument)
Using the stats from only one area and not considering the other aspects: deceptive, as you can’t then take into account the relationships
non peer-reviewed work: questionable at best
“some of them may try to overwhelm you with technical arguments”. In other words what you are attempting to do. To bad that Hovind is right and you are blind to the facts.
@haltensie “The man was a genius and being a theist doesn’t change that.” That’s exactly my point. Whether he was a theist or a deist or an atheist is totally irrelevant to how great a scientist he was. The person I was originally replying to was saying that his deism mattered in that respect.
The other point I was that when Newton was around, there was no other scientific explanation for many phenomena – no Darwin, no germ theory etc. so these things were commonly attributed to god.
@AtheistBrit I think it’s obvious that Newton was not a conformist. Regardless of whether or not everyone else was religious, he probably would have been religious himself still. Probably because he was simply genetically prone to religiosity/spiritualism. But none of that really matters. The man was a genius and being a theist doesn’t change that.
@messiahjonz I’m not pretending it’s his words written down and those who documented them. Jesus called the Pharesses a brood of vipers, I’m pretty sure he was honest about who people were at their core. Jesus also expressed feelings of anger towards evil. Lol I’m a fool because? Your the idiot contracdicting your self saying I implied the book of morman woud “prove” anything then said I didn’t and that I said SEX = RAPE. The aptitude of a chimp would be an upgrade for you.
I am happy to see that you pretend to know the views of a person you never spoke to, that never bothered to write a thought down, and has a questionable existence at best.
Tell me, what did jesus think concerning calling others names?
Tell me, what did jesus think concerning anger toward another person?
You are a fool at best.
And not being an atheist and being called one means nothing to me, yet makes you appear more the fool.
Hey, the bell rang, better get in line kid!
@messiahjonz Quote 1: “As I stated previously, you did not use the word “prove(s)” Quote 2: “By this lack of logic,? the book of mormon proves jesus existed… right”. Conclusion – You site my logic, and used the word PROVE. You made an association between the book of mormon (my analogy) and “proving” something which is not what I said. Is it lazy thinking that I know more about what you say than you do?
@messiahjonz Quote 1: “As I stated previously, you did not use the word “prove(s)” Quote 2: “By this lack of logic,? the book of mormon proves jesus existed… right”. Conclusion – You site my logic, and used the word PROVE. You made an association between the book of mormon (my analogy) and “proving” something which is not what I said. Is it lazy thinking that I know more about what you say than you do?
@messiahjonz I made no such analogy between sex and rape, I stated Jesus’s view of consentual sex, used 3rd grade logic to expand the thought process to a more evil and obviously not consentual form of sex – rape. That’s not an analogy brainiac. It’s not an association. It’s not sex = rape. It seems even capitalizing words for you like a 3rd grader doesn’t help, do you want me to make it ryhme next time atheist swine?
I just find it amusing that you keep typing words in caps like a grade school kid.
Too funny.
My dignity is just fine, as I am correct, the jewish talhmud does not mention jesus (yeshu) by name, as I stated.
It does make references to someone in derogatory words…is it jesus? who knows, make an assumption and claim it does. Many say otherwise.
You made the analogy opf sex=rape not me, live with it.
As I stated previously, you did not use the word “prove(s)”
I can type it again for you
Islam came a few centuries later, so I fail to see why you mention them.
jesus wrote nothing, and the terxts which people claim cite him are less than reliable.
So, again, you spew forth out of emotion, rather than substance.
@messiahjonz You copied what I removed… Do you want a gold star? lol how about you cope were I said the words PROVE or SEX = RAPE atheistbop. If you can do that then all those insults I removed to save you some dignity I’ll take back along with the last one about you not being able to READ.
@messiahjonz I’m just saying that if Jesus were ficticious it’s funny that the Jew’s and Muslims didn’t refute that point specfifically – instead they called him a “wise prophet” or socerer. Numbers have nothing to do with it, being able to read is.
“@messiahjonz Also I didnt say the word PROVE DID IT. Can you read anything. I didn’t say sex and rape are equal did I? Can you read? Were made in a labratory vat of jelly beans? Why don’t you copy and paste what I said and show me anything resembling the word PROVES or SEX = RAPE. You atheists are dumb as shit I can see why spelling and grammar as so high on your list of priorities anything resembling higher thinking is out of scope.”
Then you removed it…weird
@messiahjonz I’ve read parts of the Talmud and Sanhedrin, why the hell do you think I mentioned it genious? So I could have you repeat to me shit I already know? Thanks man!
Strange, my analogy was referring to how xians believe mormons to be a cult, yet they believe jesus existed and was a god, just like Joseph Smith, his brother.
Weird that you refused to see the irony.
So what if islam, or as you put it, “muslims”, and jews (I guess leaving out the jews for jesus) believe jesus existed, it is irrelevant.
You are a typical numbers guy, going with the majority… nice follower you are.
@messiahjonz Well there you go it mentions him like I said before. So basically you waisted 2 sets of comments to tell me what I told you in the beginning. Being a lazy thinker is sounding more like a compliment the more you comment.
“A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: “Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?–He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old.”
same reference.
As I said, it does not mention jesus (yeshu) by name, just derogatory remarks.
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@54321nicolaskurtf
It was in responce to an earlier comment hence the @blacklionhearth before the message.
He said the dumbest religion is 4100 years old.
@JamesThWilliams are u stupid or being sarcastic cause that was confusing
@blacklionhearth
Is that one of the Egyptian religions? Christianity is no where near that old, neither is Judaism or Islam.
@indogitrust THANKS FOR THE INFO. STILL IT WAS JUST TO GET A LAUGH
@blacklionhearth – I think the dumbest religion is one of the latest which is about 1,400 years old. And it came from Saudi Arabian desert.
@bwrpwr
facts don’t mean blinding your opponent with big words so they don’t question your argument. facts are observable provable and testable events in real life.
Doing the maths on imaginary events: Not exactly proof, especially if the maths is for events physically impossible (fine tuning argument)
Using the stats from only one area and not considering the other aspects: deceptive, as you can’t then take into account the relationships
non peer-reviewed work: questionable at best
@bwrpwr What facts?
“some of them may try to overwhelm you with technical arguments”. In other words what you are attempting to do. To bad that Hovind is right and you are blind to the facts.
@haltensie “The man was a genius and being a theist doesn’t change that.” That’s exactly my point. Whether he was a theist or a deist or an atheist is totally irrelevant to how great a scientist he was. The person I was originally replying to was saying that his deism mattered in that respect.
The other point I was that when Newton was around, there was no other scientific explanation for many phenomena – no Darwin, no germ theory etc. so these things were commonly attributed to god.
@AtheistBrit I think it’s obvious that Newton was not a conformist. Regardless of whether or not everyone else was religious, he probably would have been religious himself still. Probably because he was simply genetically prone to religiosity/spiritualism. But none of that really matters. The man was a genius and being a theist doesn’t change that.
@messiahjonz I’m not pretending it’s his words written down and those who documented them. Jesus called the Pharesses a brood of vipers, I’m pretty sure he was honest about who people were at their core. Jesus also expressed feelings of anger towards evil. Lol I’m a fool because? Your the idiot contracdicting your self saying I implied the book of morman woud “prove” anything then said I didn’t and that I said SEX = RAPE. The aptitude of a chimp would be an upgrade for you.
I am happy to see that you pretend to know the views of a person you never spoke to, that never bothered to write a thought down, and has a questionable existence at best.
Tell me, what did jesus think concerning calling others names?
Tell me, what did jesus think concerning anger toward another person?
You are a fool at best.
And not being an atheist and being called one means nothing to me, yet makes you appear more the fool.
Hey, the bell rang, better get in line kid!
@messiahjonz Quote 1: “As I stated previously, you did not use the word “prove(s)” Quote 2: “By this lack of logic,? the book of mormon proves jesus existed… right”. Conclusion – You site my logic, and used the word PROVE. You made an association between the book of mormon (my analogy) and “proving” something which is not what I said. Is it lazy thinking that I know more about what you say than you do?
@messiahjonz Quote 1: “As I stated previously, you did not use the word “prove(s)” Quote 2: “By this lack of logic,? the book of mormon proves jesus existed… right”. Conclusion – You site my logic, and used the word PROVE. You made an association between the book of mormon (my analogy) and “proving” something which is not what I said. Is it lazy thinking that I know more about what you say than you do?
@messiahjonz I made no such analogy between sex and rape, I stated Jesus’s view of consentual sex, used 3rd grade logic to expand the thought process to a more evil and obviously not consentual form of sex – rape. That’s not an analogy brainiac. It’s not an association. It’s not sex = rape. It seems even capitalizing words for you like a 3rd grader doesn’t help, do you want me to make it ryhme next time atheist swine?
I just find it amusing that you keep typing words in caps like a grade school kid.
Too funny.
My dignity is just fine, as I am correct, the jewish talhmud does not mention jesus (yeshu) by name, as I stated.
It does make references to someone in derogatory words…is it jesus? who knows, make an assumption and claim it does. Many say otherwise.
You made the analogy opf sex=rape not me, live with it.
As I stated previously, you did not use the word “prove(s)”
I can type it again for you
Islam came a few centuries later, so I fail to see why you mention them.
jesus wrote nothing, and the terxts which people claim cite him are less than reliable.
So, again, you spew forth out of emotion, rather than substance.
@messiahjonz You copied what I removed… Do you want a gold star? lol how about you cope were I said the words PROVE or SEX = RAPE atheistbop. If you can do that then all those insults I removed to save you some dignity I’ll take back along with the last one about you not being able to READ.
@messiahjonz I’m just saying that if Jesus were ficticious it’s funny that the Jew’s and Muslims didn’t refute that point specfifically – instead they called him a “wise prophet” or socerer. Numbers have nothing to do with it, being able to read is.
From: 98DevilDog79
“@messiahjonz Also I didnt say the word PROVE DID IT. Can you read anything. I didn’t say sex and rape are equal did I? Can you read? Were made in a labratory vat of jelly beans? Why don’t you copy and paste what I said and show me anything resembling the word PROVES or SEX = RAPE. You atheists are dumb as shit I can see why spelling and grammar as so high on your list of priorities anything resembling higher thinking is out of scope.”
Then you removed it…weird
@messiahjonz I’ve read parts of the Talmud and Sanhedrin, why the hell do you think I mentioned it genious? So I could have you repeat to me shit I already know? Thanks man!
Strange, my analogy was referring to how xians believe mormons to be a cult, yet they believe jesus existed and was a god, just like Joseph Smith, his brother.
Weird that you refused to see the irony.
So what if islam, or as you put it, “muslims”, and jews (I guess leaving out the jews for jesus) believe jesus existed, it is irrelevant.
You are a typical numbers guy, going with the majority… nice follower you are.
@messiahjonz Well there you go it mentions him like I said before. So basically you waisted 2 sets of comments to tell me what I told you in the beginning. Being a lazy thinker is sounding more like a compliment the more you comment.
“A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: “Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?–He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old.”
same reference.
As I said, it does not mention jesus (yeshu) by name, just derogatory remarks.