Why is it that so many Christians use the dead sea scrolls to prove the bible?
By paranominal
Published: September 5, 2009
Tagged with: Adult, Bible, Book Of Enoch, Christians, Clothes, Completeness, Dead Sea Scrolls, Knowledge, Melchizedek, Old Testament, Religion, Scary Guy, Sounds, Translation, Validity
They do just as you said. They show that people are wrong when they say the Bible has changed so much. It hardly has.
The Dead Sea Scrolls showed that. But they are also showing secrets about the religious sect that carried them.
Melchizedek appears a couple times in the OT. His role in the Bible is much debated. Some even think he’s Jesus. Who told you he wasn’t in the Bible? Maybe you shouldn’t listen to this idiot. I left a simple article from Wiki to help you out.
they want it so bad to be true
The ones that were found like 200 AD? those things? It could have been just as easily made up.
Desperation.
cuz the orig manuscripts were translated into 1611 king james…
catholics have 5 extra books….Luther didnt agree with them..
They have very weak arguement, so anything that can be twisted around and used to their advantaged will be.
well most christian theologians do most real christians stick with the four gospels epistles and the apocylpse of john and they do it because it’s interesting
many humans will believe stuff from the dead sea scrolls
The dead sea scrolls date back to as early as 120 AD. and have been lost until the 1940s. These manuscripts lend proof that our current bible is the same as the original manuscripts…..Nothing has been added or removed.
Fireball, you just really have some opinions that are way off of the facts…. I have a 1611 KJV and it has the Apocrypha in it. Luther was way before that and he had nothing to do with removing books from the bible……>
The only book that Luther was concerned about was James. For if you didnt study your bible correctly you could misinterpret that book as one of work righteousness…….
For the same reason they try to use the bible to prove the bible: Incapable of logical thought.
Actually the Dead Sea scrolls don’t show that the OT hasn’t changed in translation….it shows that the Jewish books haven’t changed, the Christian version of the OT HAS changed quite a bit. The omissions of the Book of Enoch was done on purpose by he Roman church.
That’s why it took so long for the church to release the scrolls in the first place and why it took a smuggled set of photos to force them into it.
I, have never seen a dead sea squirrel let alone talk to one about the bible.
" Portions of the Book of Enoch were found in there"- really? The Book of Enoch is an apocryphal and pseudepigraphic text. It is falsely ascribed to Enoch. Produced probably sometime during the second and first centuries B.C.E., it is a collection of extravagant and unhistorical Jewish myths, evidently the product of exegetical elaborations on the brief Genesis reference to Enoch. This alone is sufficient for lovers of God’s inspired Word to dismiss it.
" Melchizedek is a scary guy…?"..He was King of ancient Salem and “priest of the Most High God… whats scary about that?
You sure you not a Muslim or some other faith?
"A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring"
St Augustine used the Book of Enoch extensively but even 400 years later he has the attitude that you reject, that would answer all your questions :
"I would not believe in the Gospel myself if the authority of the Catholic Church did not influence me to do so."
Against the letter of Mani, 5,6, 397 A.D.
The Dead Sea Scrolls verify and affirm the Old Testament. Even on this forum, the scriptures are brought into question time and time again. The Scrolls are faith-affirming !
The Book of Enoch is still part of the Bible in the Coptic (Egyptian) Church. It’s even available online if you want to read it for yourself.
Melchizadek was a high priest…. Abram paid tithes to Him in Genesis. In typology, Melchizadek is like Christ… he came with no beginning and left without dying. The New Testament tells us the Jesus is of that royal priesthood, "after the order of Melchizadek," our High Priest forever.
The Qumran scrolls were important, it is true; but they were not all considered scripture, even by those who hid them. One is a treasure map; others are washing guidelines; others are political rants about local leadership; others are written in Greek and not Hebrew.
The choice of the Hebrew canon was not the choice of the Qumran community. It was the choice of the Hebrew community at large – as manifested at Jamnia, at Alexandria when the LXX was written, and implicitly by the writers of the NT, who used the LXX for all of their OT quotations.
Ultimately, concerns about the Bible’s completeness depend less upon archaelogical evidence than they do upon one’s trust in its divine ownership. Either we trust that God will preserve and will ultimately communicate his word to us, or we don’t.
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EDIT for Blessed Cheeser:
Roland de Vaux’s possessiveness caused the delay in the scrolls’ publication. It was not about scary biblical details that the scrolls uncovered – it was about his desire to be in control.
I commend you for wanting to learn more.
I am also a Christian and I don’t rely on the Dead Sea Scrolls to prove or disprove anything.
I can’t speak for others but for me simply? It is a Leap of Faith. It is reinforced everytime I look outside and see the Carolina Blue skies (those from Carolina will understand
), flowers blooming, the birds and all God’s precious creatures. I see God in my beautiful grandbabies (aren’t they precious?). I see it in my grandmother’s beautiful weathered skin. I see God in people who chose to witness to others through their words and actions.
I don’t need to rely on some archaelogical dig or scientific exploration.
I believe because I trust that God will allow me to wake up next to my husband every morning. I trust in God to watch out for my children and grandchildren. I trust that God will guide me through life and live it the best way I can.
So for me it truly is a Leap of Faith.
christianity is a fabricated religion based on the pagan religions of old which worshiped the sun and traced their path through the seasons and movement of the night sky( zodiac). the bible stories are purely that….’stories’
What we know as the bible today, is a group of stories brought together during the council of Nicea by constantine and his ‘friends’…christianity was born purely for the mass manipulation and control of the general population and for political reasons by those in power at the time( hence the removal of mary magdalene from her rightful place of importance as jesus’s beloved to the place of prostitute). I do not doubt that jesus was a great prophet/ politician in his time who really wanted to do some good in the world, but the gospels etc. were written in memory of him, and to make his memory more powerful to the masses, these stories were glorified ( ie…the actual truth was expanded to make him seem more than he really was. google the ‘concious media network and look/google zeitgeist for further interesting information/reading.
The Dead Sea Scrolls provides physical historical and archeological evidence that the parts of the Bible found among them has been accurately and carefully translated over the centuries.
This does not mean that the other documents found among the Dead Sea Scrolls are a part of the Bible.
Well, many pseudepigrapha were found among the Dead Sea Scrolls, but especially *several* copies of 1 Enoch and Jubilees (both part of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church bible, by the way…)
Really, I guess I don’t understand your concern. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that the Hebrew biblical canon was not established until 200 years or more *after* the Dead Sea Scrolls were written. In other words, they were preserving anything that purported to be religious Scripture. They had not yet made the effort to decide, in a final sort of way, which Scriptures were authentic and which were not. They already had Torah, or course, but the Prophets and Writings sections had not been established at that time.
Jim, http://www.christianwebprogramming.com/br/charts_scriptures_hb.html